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say it with silence ([personal profile] scruloose) wrote2009-04-20 10:34 pm
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I *can* has Dreamwidth!

I was working on a post explaining why I think Dreamwidth is worth getting excited about, but it's turning into a long rant about what sucks about LiveJournal (their code is awful, slow, and lacking key functionality--and management went from being completely amateur to completely indifferent about the good of the users... in a nutshell). I may or may not actually finish that post.

But in the meantime, I'm kind of excited about Dreamwidth...

It's a fork of the LiveJournal codebase that seems fundamentally different from LJ itself and all the LJ-alikes that have come before in that:

  • They took the time to get a business plan and some serious coding done before launching
  • They know how to launch a site, with stages of beta testing to ease the system into place
  • Where LiveJournal's feature improvements seem to have stalled at snap.com previews that give my ad-blocker one more thing to filter out, Dreamwidth's improvements include things like splitting "friending" someone into the separate operations of subscribing to read them and granting them access to your locked posts, and writing a style system that actually works and supports flexible CSS layouts
  • They seem to actually have (wait for it) a business plan! No, really. Like, a long-term strategy for how to balance the numbers of paid accounts with free accounts and not have to spam the users with ads to make ends meet.
  • There seems to be a starting assumption that freedom of expression matters, which is a refreshing change. I wasn't caught in LJ's "Strikethrough 2007", but using the dragnet of keyword-matching to mass-delete all accounts that list Lolita as an interest (to pick an example) is abusive and shows a fundamental disregard for the best interest of the users. The fact that those who opposed the move were met with a wall of "Oh, it's just the Harry Potter pedophiles whining because big bad LJ took their kiddy-porn away" didn't exactly help with earning respect or trust.

Anyway, thanks to my lovely and awesome wife, I got an invite code and now have a Dreamwidth account of my own. Same username as here. There's already an option to cross-post to LJ from DW, and I think I heard that you can add LJ journals to your DW reading list too. If all of that is true, I won't need to be haranguing my LJ f-list to switch. Of course, if Dreamwidth comes anywhere near living up to the potential it seems to be showing, you want to get in on it.

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[identity profile] haruhiko.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
... Not gonna lie, you got me interested in Dreamwidth with this post. XD;;;

I still think LJ is orders of magnitude better than Facebook/Twitter/MySpace/Blogger, and I was so underwhelmed with Tumblr, but I will have to check DW out once it goes "live."
Edited 2009-04-21 03:37 (UTC)

[identity profile] hysteriachan.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 11:47 am (UTC)(link)
DW's really pretty awesome. *g* I've got an account there under "umadoshi" (hopefully better-rounded than [livejournal.com profile] umadoshi), and have been having a lot of fun playing around with the site.
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[identity profile] haruhiko.livejournal.com 2009-05-07 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
Just added you on DW! *g*
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[identity profile] scruloose.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I have no interest in Twitter/MySpace/Blogger and I flatly refuse to get Facebook. Livejournal offers something that's basically different from all of them... it's not just blogging, but it's not quite a social networking site. "Social Blogging"? And none of the previous LJ-alikes have inspired any confidence... (Oh, look, it's like LJ, but run by people with less business sense than whoever owns LJ this year and no idea how the code works! yay!)

I think that the thing that has me excited about Dreamwidth (jaded though I am) is that it seems poised to be "Livejournal done right". And I gotta say, it would be about damn time, too.

Oh, and two points for if you're interested in checking DW out: You can sign in using OpenID (It's super-easy and doesn't involve giving them your LJ password), which allows you to subscribe and read people, comment, and use most of the site, but not post entries. Also, open beta starts on May 1st... and there's a rumour that all openID accounts on DW will get an invite code at that point.
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[identity profile] haruhiko.livejournal.com 2009-05-07 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
I had to re-activate my "deleted" Facebook page (because FB never actually deletes shit, they just "hold" it in limbo) for my last job (part of it involved FB promotion), and one of the reasons I'm glad I'm at a different job now is that I can "delete" my FB page again. I hate FB so much.

Twitter I don't mind as much because the only thing I find interesting about FB is the "Wall," and Twitter is really just the "Wall" without anything else.

But yeah, thanks for all the info on Dreamwidth. I just added you as well as Ysa. :D

[identity profile] bunnyhero.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
yep! this is the one lj fork that seems to have put actual, serious thought into everything.

[identity profile] kawaiiayu.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 01:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm glad you made this post because until know all i saw was 'DW is better than LJ!" and no explination, and I'm like ok.. whats the big deal? This makes at least a little more sense.

I'm kinda glad this is happening, because I am still in no way interested in keeping my LJ or getting a DW or online journalling whatsoever anymore. So I'm kinda glad that this is coming through so that my LJ friends have something to move forward to while I am moving forward away from it all. But we're all moving forward :D

And if DW is even half as cool as it says, it will incorporate RSS feeds? Thats one thing I cant stand, that I cant have my friends page on RSS unless I pay for it or something else stupid (I never did figure it out). But mostly, that would ruin the point of me leaving LJ and journalling (to stop wasting time, I'm still wasting the time if I'm still reading them). I just need to pull out 100%

[identity profile] hysteriachan.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 04:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, I at least linked to a couple of "this is why it's cool" posts. ^_-

Anyway, I haven't actually tried using the syndication feature, but my DW account does have both an RSS and an Atom button, so it looks like it should be supported. OTOH, I'm currently trying out the paid account settings, so I don't know for sure that it's supported across the board.
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[identity profile] scruloose.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm glad my little post cleared things up a little.

I'm in favour of all moving forward, yes... There is definitely some sadness about moving forward separately, in different directions. (You don't come to AN, you're pulling out of LJ... and don't say anything silly like suggesting I get a Facebook (ergh!)...)

But you gotta pick your time commitments. I understand and respect that.

(...and I have no idea how DW will handle RSS. Apparently on LJ you can get RSS feeds of all your friends' journals individually without paying, which I presume your RSS reader could then aggregate into one list... but you need to set up authentication in order to access any f-locked posts.)

[identity profile] tamakun.livejournal.com 2009-05-05 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the little informative post. I got myself an OpenID which is now my own account there :D

Only a few more weeks! :D